tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6666208467022745303.post1094201393515324880..comments2024-03-13T02:17:39.644-07:00Comments on Restating the Obvious: The spirit of Drancy Harry Eagarhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04196202758858876402noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6666208467022745303.post-43177939757706362822018-06-21T17:18:56.356-07:002018-06-21T17:18:56.356-07:00Skipper,
"1) How is Trump's policy diffe...Skipper,<br /><br />"1) How is Trump's policy different from the policies of GW Bush and Obama?"<br /><br />https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2018/06/19/the-facts-about-trumps-policy-of-separating-families-at-the-border/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.2b497442ded7<br /><br /><br />"(2) What do you suggest as a practical solution?"<br /><br />Build a Wall. We need to protect those children from barbarians such as you, who are unfit to get anywhere near them.<br /><br />"(3) What does current law dictate? What specific legislative changes have you proposed?"<br /><br />Current law *does not require* separation of families. It may allow for it, but does not impose it upon the administration, as Trump EO just proved (as well as the previous 15 years of previous policies).<br /><br /><br />"(4) In what ways are illegal immigrants treated differently from US citizens who commit crimes?"<br /><br />To enter illegally in the US the first time is a misdemeanor, not a full crime. US citizens who commit crimes - as opposed to misdemeanors - go to jail after full proceedings in a court of law. Those illegal immigrants are losing their children by fiat, before any such proceedings are finished, and without time and resources (other parent, family, etc) to give them support to take the children in a safe environment.<br /><br /><br />"Then you are ignorant about what is going on. That is not an insult, BTW."<br />It sure is. You hit and run, for you are not man enough to own it up.<br /><br /><br /><br />"I never made it personal; you were the one who provided insults where arguments belong."<br /><br />You are often using lower language to address both Harry and myself, while posing as the Socratic arbiter. Until you can't take the heat and goes home to cry for mamma.Clovishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08921327103613284595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6666208467022745303.post-27734649173297664842018-06-21T13:28:56.824-07:002018-06-21T13:28:56.824-07:00If you can't address these issues:
(1) How is...If you can't address these issues:<br /><br /><i>(1) How is Trump's policy different from the policies of GW Bush and Obama?<br />(2) What do you suggest as a practical solution?<br />(3) What does current law dictate? What specific legislative changes have you proposed?<br />(4) In what ways are illegal immigrants treated differently from US citizens who commit crimes?</i><br /><br />Then you are ignorant about what is going on. That is not an insult, BTW. All of use are ignorant about almost everything. And since you don't have a dog in the fight, your ignorance would be completely rational.<br /><br /><i>Last time you wanted to make it personal, you couldn't take it. </i><br /><br />I never made it personal; you were the one who provided insults where arguments belong. I'll be happy to provide direct quotes if your memory fails you.Hey Skipperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10798930502187234974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6666208467022745303.post-35424393409956209142018-06-21T11:11:31.026-07:002018-06-21T11:11:31.026-07:00Skipper,
"Which means Harry (and you, but si...Skipper,<br /><br />"Which means Harry (and you, but since your aren't a US citizen, much more forgivably) is either ignorant, or mendacious."<br /><br />Do you really want to go there? Last time you wanted to make it personal, you couldn't take it. Better to go back to civil discourse, or you will need to run away for mom for a longer time after we are finished...Clovishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08921327103613284595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6666208467022745303.post-9006485400785935112018-06-21T09:30:01.477-07:002018-06-21T09:30:01.477-07:00I wrote this post late, went to bed and woke up to...<i>I wrote this post late, went to bed and woke up to find the administration spitting in Skipper's eye. </i><br /><br />If there was ever a perfect example of how vile progressives are, that, right there, is it.<br /><br /><i> What has been glaring in its absence is responsible journalists (or RtO) at least asking Democrats these questions:<br /><br />(1) How is Trump's policy different from the policies of GW Bush and Obama?<br />(2) What do you suggest as a practical solution?<br />(3) What does current law dictate? What specific legislative changes have you proposed?<br />(4) In what ways are illegal immigrants treated differently from US citizens who commit crimes?<br /><br />But it is so much easier to fling "nazi" with all the discretion of an incontinent goose, isn't it?</i><br /><br />According to you, Harry, Trump is a nazi for enforcing laws passed by previous administrations, then accommodating public opinion because Congress (i.e., the Democrats) can't be fussed to deal with a situation of their own making. <br /><br /><i>Yes, Harry, suddenly, per their own talking points up to yesterday, the Trump admin is grossly flaunting the Law with his last Executive Order.</i><br /><br />Yes, Trump is, and he has acknowledged exactly that. <br /><br />Which means Harry (and you, but since your aren't a US citizen, much more forgivably) is either ignorant, or mendacious. <br /><br />How about I embrace the power of "and".<br /><br />Trump enforces the law. Contradiction ensues. Congress (Democrats) refuse to address the contradiction. Trump is obliged to enforce the law. Now what?<br /><br />Harry won't read <a href="http://freebeacon.com/blog/explainer-whats-inside-trumps-family-unification-eo/?utm_source=Freedom+Mail&utm_campaign=0dbf08efe2-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2018_06_20_09_16_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_b5e6e0e9ea-0dbf08efe2-45646661" rel="nofollow">this</a>, because his superpower is allergy to facts, but you should.Hey Skipperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10798930502187234974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6666208467022745303.post-91869394184025785922018-06-21T05:15:41.939-07:002018-06-21T05:15:41.939-07:00Harry
Hitler was not particularly smart or compet...Harry<br /><br />Hitler was not particularly smart or competent, but the society he led was, and still is.Clovishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08921327103613284595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6666208467022745303.post-80676657464201325912018-06-20T23:14:58.090-07:002018-06-20T23:14:58.090-07:00BTW, I don't buy the myth of the superefficien...BTW, I don't buy the myth of the superefficient nazis. Hitler was a hands-off manager, like Trump, and his acolytes were a vicious pack of backstabbers, like Trump's.<br /><br />Fuhrerprinzip was and remains much more a matter of emperor-worship than an alternative way of organizing a government.Harry Eagarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04196202758858876402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6666208467022745303.post-68972714108692016922018-06-20T17:01:20.364-07:002018-06-20T17:01:20.364-07:00Yes, Harry, suddenly, per their own talking points...Yes, Harry, suddenly, per their own talking points up to yesterday, the Trump admin is grossly flaunting the Law with his last Executive Order.<br /><br />I suggest they should impeach him.Clovishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08921327103613284595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6666208467022745303.post-69565488817933733872018-06-20T12:00:00.103-07:002018-06-20T12:00:00.103-07:00I think this works:
https://www.npr.org/2018/06/1...I think this works:<br /><br />https://www.npr.org/2018/06/19/621578853/border-patrol-official-discusses-family-separation-policy<br /><br />I wrote this post late, went to bed and woke up to find the administration spitting in Skipper's eye. <br /><br />Will this be the breaking point? Will the alliance of nazis and evangelicals prove to be incompatible?<br /><br />I am not hopeful but it's the internal fights that destroy unprincipled movements.<br /><br />Harry Eagarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04196202758858876402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6666208467022745303.post-88012770377143264002018-06-20T08:46:29.897-07:002018-06-20T08:46:29.897-07:00Although at first some responses indicated that re...<i>Although at first some responses indicated that readers thought this was over-the-top, I don't suppose that now anyone will deny that the top of the American government is being completely nazified.</i><br /><br />As is your wont, your rabid, spittle flecked, hatred has made you immune to facts and reason.<br /><br /><a href="http://thefederalist.com/2018/06/20/4-things-media-wont-tell-border-crisis/?utm_source=The+Federalist+List&utm_campaign=a504c5c4c4-RSS_The_Federalist_Daily_Updates_w_Transom&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_cfcb868ceb-a504c5c4c4-83798833" rel="nofollow">Trump is enforcing long standing laws and court decisions.</a> (Which you won't read, because a vampires hatred of the sun has nothing on your distaste for facts.)<br /><br />And you will also refuse to learn anything from <a href="http://thefederalist.com/2018/06/20/4-things-media-wont-tell-border-crisis/?utm_source=The+Federalist+List&utm_campaign=a504c5c4c4-RSS_The_Federalist_Daily_Updates_w_Transom&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_cfcb868ceb-a504c5c4c4-83798833" rel="nofollow">this</a>.<br /><br />What has been glaring in its absence is responsible journalists (or RtO) at least asking Democrats these questions:<br /><br />(1) How is Trump's policy different from the policies of GW Bush and Obama?<br />(2) What do you suggest as a practical solution?<br />(3) What does current law dictate? What specific legislative changes have you proposed?<br />(4) In what ways are illegal immigrants treated differently from US citizens who commit crimes?<br /><br />But it is so much easier to fling "nazi" with all the discretion of an incontinent goose, isn't it?Hey Skipperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10798930502187234974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6666208467022745303.post-85084461630639083262018-06-20T05:58:00.556-07:002018-06-20T05:58:00.556-07:00BTW, Harry, I think you finally got some of your a...BTW, Harry, I think you finally got some of your analogies right.<br /><br />Trump admin is sure more like the incompetent racist Vichy France than Nazi Germany.<br /><br />Or can you envisage a Nazi officer in the duty line directly contradicting the statements of the Fuhrer to the press?<br /><br />"Look, our zero tolerance is actually 80% tolerance, but we can't tell you guys, least the animals find out and keep crossing!"<br /><br />Clovishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08921327103613284595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6666208467022745303.post-55789563817581190822018-06-20T05:40:07.429-07:002018-06-20T05:40:07.429-07:00The link to NPR is not working, Harry.The link to NPR is not working, Harry.Clovishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08921327103613284595noreply@blogger.com