Tuesday, November 26, 2019

Meet the Little Russians

It is not comfortable to have Ukraine as an ally. It does not make any historical sense to demand it be reunited with Crimea. History does not support the idea that Ukraine is embracing western values, at least not the western values that we want to have embraced. Ukrainians twice greeted German invaders with bread and salt, then promptly set about murdering Jews.

Political Ukraine is in fact a creation of German despotism.

On the other hand, we must feel sorry for the Little Russians, a people who, along with the White Russians, have suffered as much as any ethnic groups over the past century.

Considering that we are now fixated on the country, it is remarkable  how little we know and have ever known about it.

Ukraine first entered the consciousness of Americans and western Europeans when it fell victim to a terrible famine engineered by the tsarist bureaucracy in 1892. That led to the creation of one of the first international efforts to succor a starving population.

That step into modernism has been almost completely forgotten, leaving even so well educated a person as Skipper unable to find a report of it on the Internet. Which goes to show the advantage of having a library of real books printed on paper.

I'm still opening the boxes of books from our move from Hawaii and I just found my copy of Chambers Encyclopedia of Universal Knowledge published in 1889, before the famine, before the large immigration of Little Russians to the United States and before the world had any special reason to care about these Russian provinces more than any others.

Following is the entire article in Chambers. It isn't long it and  does not mention the important fact -- never mentioned in the context of today's disputes -- that Ukrainians and Russians do not share a religion.

If Americans know anything about Ukrainians, it is that they paint over-the-top Easter eggs, and if they think about it perhaps they imagine that Ukraine is like Great Russia in its obsession with rituals with Easter rituals.

So it is, but there is a religious divide nevertheless. In the western provinces including Lwow the majority of the population adheres to the Ukrainian Greek Orthodox Church which is in union with Rome. The membership today is something over 5 million, small in a state with 44 million inhabitants.

The eastern districts, the ones being invaded by Russia, are generally Russian Orthodox now.

 It is not only a national war, a cultural war and an ethnic war. It is a religious war.

Here is all that Chambers had to say:

UKRAI'NE (Slav. a frontier country or March),  the name given in Poland first to the frontiers towards the Tartars and other nomads, and then to the fertile regions lying on both sides of the middle Dnieper, without any very definite limits. The U. was long a bone of contention between Poland and Russia. About 1686 the part on the east side of the Dnieper was ceded to Russia (Russian
U.); and at the second partition of Poland, the western portion (Polish U.) also fell to Russia, and is mostly comprised in the government of Kiev. The historic Ukraine forms the greater part of what is called Little Russia (a name which first appears about 1654), which is made up of the governments of Kiev, Tchernigov, Poltava and Kharkov.

8 comments:

  1. [OP:] That step into modernism has been almost completely forgotten, leaving even so well educated a person as Skipper unable to find a report of it on the Internet.

    Oh, it's easy enough to find, alright. Everyone, save you, calls it the Russian Famine of 1892.

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  2. [OP:] That step into modernism has been almost completely forgotten, leaving even so well educated a person as Skipper unable to find a report of it on the Internet.

    So, not forgotten, and easily found by me on the internet.

    Don't you ever get tired of being so wrong?

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  3. You were unable to figure out that it referred to Ukrainians, no doubt because for ideological reasons you have to present the holomodor as something unique, which it was not.

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  4. You were unable to figure out that it referred to Ukrainians ...

    Harry, learn to read. Learn to understand and interpret evidence. Your own writing, historical evidence.

    Ukraine first entered the consciousness of Americans and western Europeans when it fell victim to a terrible famine engineered by the tsarist bureaucracy in 1892.

    In 1892, under what country's name did the famine enter American consciousness?

    The only restating of the obvious that goes on around here is how far off the reservation of evidence and reason you are nearly always found, yet your plight remains a perpetual mystery to you.

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  5. The famine killed Ukrainians, or Little Russians as they would usually have been called then. What more is there to say?

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  6. What more is there to say? Well, nothing that wasn't obvious from the outset:

    [OP:] That step into modernism has been almost completely forgotten, leaving even so well educated a person as Skipper unable to find a report of it on the Internet.

    It is very easy to find, when called by its proper name, the 1892 Russian famine.

    Calling it the Ukraine famine is no more sensible than referring to the Belgian Free Congo as the essence of capitalism. No amount of searching will find either, because they exist only within the tortured provinces of your own head.

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  7. Note to readers. I aom going to have to find a new home for Restating the Obvious. Nt sure where yet. Please email me at harryeagar@gmail.com to learn new URL. New blog will be named RestatingtheObvious Sykesville (I hope).

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