Monday, April 8, 2019

Moral test

It is moral test time for Republican lawyers. Which will initiate a complaint aiming at disbarment for Kirstjen Neilsen?

20 comments:

  1. Why?

    It is also a moral testing time for Democrats. Who will go to prison for using the obviously farcical Russia Dossier to corrupt the FISA court, and spy on domestic political opponents?

    When do Comey, Clapper, Brennan and McCabe go to jail for lying to Congress?

    When will Brennan be appropriately shamed for his relentless lying on CNN?

    Sally Yates unmasked US citizens. What is the penalty for that?

    So, tell us, what laws did Neilsen violate?

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  2. Nope, not that one. Think again.

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  3. There's the moral problem of the rightwing in a nutshell,although I have identified it at greater length in posts about the spirit of Drancy.

    It's a fascist government.

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  4. Define “fascist”. You keep using that word, and I doubt very much it means what you think it means.

    Enforcing existing laws and court decrees probably doesn’t feature prominently.

    If you want to argue for an open southern border, then by all means do so.

    Slander isn’t an argument.

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  5. I use Eric Nolte's definition. You fit.

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  6. By Eric Norte, you meant Ernst. His definition:

    “Nolte's definition of fascism—as “anti-Marxism which seeks to destroy the enemy by the evolvement of a radically opposed and yet related ideology and by the use of almost identical and yet typically modified methods, always, however, within the unyielding framework of national self-assertion and autonomy”

    Okay, there it is. You say I fit. I say you are barking mad. Prove me wrong. Using direct quotes.

    Also noteworthy is this:

    “Already within this definition and within the particular approach of historical phenomenology itself was Nolte's signature idea of a “European civil war of ideologies,” a theoretical construct he developed in the following decades. Nolte increasingly stressed an interdependency between Bolshevism and National Socialism, labeled both ideologies as countermovements to Western globalization, and, in 1986, finally aroused harsh criticism by publicly posing the following provocative questions: “Was the Gulag not prior to [ursprünglicher als] Auschwitz? Was not the “class murder” [Klassenmord] of the Bolshviks the logical and practical Prius of the “race murder [Rassenmord]” of the National Socialists?””

    I know I’ve said essentially the same thing at least a half dozen times: there is scarcely any difference between communism and fascism. They are both brutalizing collectivisms.

    And while you are at it, demonstrate exactly how the Trump administration is fascist.

    Slander isn’t an argument.

    Although given how the MSM could not figure that out over the last several years, and you are a journalist who succumbed to exactly the same delusion, I’m not optimistic.

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  7. Prior to the Gulag were, among many other vast crimes that you refuse to acknowledge, the extirpation of the Hereros by the Germans and the invention of concentration camps -- where women and children died at worse than Buchewald rates -- by the English.

    That, by the way, is somebody else's idea of Nolte's definition.


    It is noteworthy that Nolte finds the first fascist organization in Action Francaise, a Catholic party, as most fascist states have been. It was not accident that the first successful fascist movements arose in entirely Catholic Italy and Bavsria. So there's a difference between fascism and/or communism that anybody can understand.

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  8. That, by the way, is somebody else's idea of Nolte's definition.

    Hey, I have an idea! Fire up the googlerizer and give me Nolte's actual definition, instead of making me search for it!

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  9. Skipper,

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    there is scarcely any difference between communism and fascism. They are both brutalizing collectivisms.
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    What would be more anti-individualism - hence collectivism on steroids - than the State separating children from parents indefinitely, purely at the whim of bureaucrats?

    Is that too different from the concept of concentration camp, just because they are better fed?

    I submit people who can't see it as wrong are fascist by your own
    definition.

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  10. Clovis: read this.

    Once having read that, and reflecting upon than the State separating children from parents indefinitely, purely at the whim of bureaucrats?, perhaps you might reconsider.

    Pro-tips: it's the rule of law, not the whim of bureaucrats; and, despite being people of color*, they do have moral agency.

    *Beware the bigotry of low expectations.

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  11. Harry, I can't help but notice you haven't yet provided Nolte's definition of fascism.

    Why?

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  12. Skipper,

    The Trump admin was found in the wrong by a federal judge for failing to reunite more than a thousand kids even after ordered so by the court - and you talk about rule of law?

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  13. Trump all along has tested how far he can defy the law. He's now confident he can do anything, thanks to lack of spine or principle among Republicans.

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  14. [Clovis:] The Trump admin was found in the wrong by a federal judge ...

    How about a link to what you are talking about? Federal judges have decided many things, and some have been found wrong.

    [Harry:] Trump all along has tested how far he can defy the law.

    Give me some concrete examples.

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  15. Skipper,

    I see, the rule of law is only absolute when it goes your way?

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  16. Clovis:

    I see you can't give me any specific idea of what you are talking about, nor explained how it is that I think the rule of law is absolute, never mind only when it goes my way.

    (Pro-tip: that a federal judge decides something does not make it so.)

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  17. Skipper,

    Yes, I am not wasting links on you, but Google is your friend.

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  18. Yet you give me no google search terms. How about not channeling Harry, and, instead, stand and deliver.

    Kind of like this.

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